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By Carolyn

If your kids are divided into groups you can still give each group a number. I have tried this with groups, as well, and it works as well as for rows, I think. Depending upon the types of kids you have, I think intangible
rewards would work, too. One reason I think this is because I know my kids have a sense of team in this venture. They like the idea of being the winning team, and I think that this is the extra incentive to to final prize. They seem to take pride in being on top.
My kids could not sit in rows. I learned from the fourth grade teacher who had them last year that they couldn't do

it without so much talking. Front facing in rows keeps faces, minds, and other body parts to the front. Less time facing each other and talking. Putting them in rows doesn't mean that they can never again sit in groups. We do sometimes push the desks together for activities, but when we are done we go back to our rows.